All Day Chemist and Tariffs

Caution: An earlier post by “traceyh” claiming ivermectin from India is made in “an abandoned cement factory” and “full of toxins” is unprofessional, unverified, and misleading. India produces ~80% of the world’s ivermectin, with many manufacturers operating under FDA oversight, GMP certification, and international quality standards.

Such statements reflect bias, not evidence, and risk misleading patients. Professionals must rely on facts — not fear.

Tracey, if you have verifiable facts to support your claims, please provide them.

I just had an interesting experience ordering meds from India, which may also have to do with tariffs and trade negotiations. The source I had been using hiked both their prices and shipping charges, almost doubling costs. More important to me was they no longer accepted PayPal for payment. I did eventually find a new supplier at better prices, and have an order of ivermectin, mebendazole, and doxycycline in the works. I used a different service for processing international payments, which was a bit convoluted, but got it done. This is one area where “populism” may have unintended harms for little people like us. The tariffs may advance some of the administration’s larger goals, but this is one area where they aren’t helping!

That is actually a great price. Thanks for the info.

Agreed.

Agree, and most of the other 20% of the IVM is made in China.

Thank you, thank you, for striking a note for calm and informed reason about the integrity of ivermectin from India! All through the “Pandemic” I bought supplies from India, and did, and still do, trust their purity. However, I only stored them as a hedge against the uncertainty of the future and turmoil of ongoing politics that seemed to make medical freedom more vulnerable. I treated that supply as a last resort, for exigencies, and simultaneously obtained ivermectin for immediate use from more familiar, local, sources, such as compounding pharmacies in Florida.

I do dip into my Indian ivermectin whenever my local Rx’s run out.

Regardless, I believe it would still be a good idea to have a simple lab test, such as a chemically treated dip strip, to unambiguously confirm the level of purity of whatever batch of ivermectin I happen to be using. Are there any chemists in this forum who could create such a test? I am a chemist and am planning on developing a test that would be analogous to testing for the concentration of an active substance, either by using a test strip as indicated by its color changes (sort of like the commercially available test strips for hydrogen peroxide), or by using a chemical spray containing a staining agent on an ivermectin sample that has been absorbed onto an inert surface.

Hey Aaron, I just had to jump in after seeing that earlier post about ivermectin from India — it was really unfair and had no real basis or proof. I just want to remind people not to get discouraged. If , some are looking for it, talk directly with sellers (like on IndiaMART) and make sure you’re confident about the product’s quality and purity.

It still blows my mind how many lives might’ve been affected a few years back because of that FDA tweet telling people to stop taking ivermectin (“Stop, y’all”). Thankfully, that post was later taken down from social media by court order. To me, that earlier post sounded just like the same old biased messaging — meant to discourage and mislead people.

I remember seeing some post a while ago where someone tested ivermectin from different Indian suppliers against common parasites — there wasn’t any real difference in effectiveness, so I didn’t bother saving the link (wish I had now!).

I’m sure the FDA and CDC already checked India suppliers before their “war on ivermectin.” If something was truly wrong, it would’ve been headline news every day. :blush: And really, why would India risk its reputation or damage such a huge share of the global market?

Still, I wouldn’t be surprised if certain groups tried to start another fight against IVM — especially since this drug has shown so many potential benefits, from antiviral to anticancer properties, and that threatens some big interests. So yeah, having a backup source just makes sense.

Hi @Andrzej

You probably know better than I do, but I think there is some caution required in comment on “if it’s imported then the FDA has approved it.”

So the question to AI was - Do all Indian manufacturers of IVM that export to the US operate under FDA oversight. And do Indian manufacturers of IVM export to the US that do not operate under FDA oversight."

To me, there is always a ‘buyer beware’, wherever it’s purchased from. The asnwer from AI was as follows:


Not all Indian manufacturers of ivermectin (IVM) that export to the United States operate under direct FDA oversight, although any company whose ivermectin product is legally marketed in the U.S. must—by law—comply with FDA regulatory standards.

Ivermectin Exports Under FDA Oversight
Several major Indian pharmaceutical companies, such as Dr. Reddy’s Laboratories, Zydus Lifesciences, and Sun Pharma, have received formal FDA approvals for human-use ivermectin formulations like tablets or topical creams.

* Dr. Reddy’s began U.S. distribution of FDA-approved **Ivermectin Tablets USP, 3 mg**, in November 2024, confirming therapeutic equivalence to Merck’s Stromectol®.​

* Zydus Lifesciences similarly received **final approval** from the FDA in 2022 for **Ivermectin Cream (1%)**, used for rosacea treatment.​

These companies operate facilities inspected by the FDA under U.S. current good manufacturing practices (cGMP) and within FDA’s formal regulatory jurisdiction for approved human drugs.

Ivermectin Exports Outside FDA Oversight
However, there are Indian exporters that ship non–FDA-approved ivermectin products into the U.S. outside of authorized drug channels.

* The FDA has issued **warning letters** against websites and overseas manufacturers selling unapproved ivermectin formulations, including “Iverheal-12” tablets made by **Healing Pharma** of Mumbai, India, which are **not approved for U.S. use**.​

* Such products bypass FDA application and inspection processes and enter through **internet sales or unauthorized distributors**, meaning they are **not subject to FDA quality control or oversight**.

* The FDA and U.S. Customs have also warned importers against shipments of **animal ivermectin** or human formulations shipped without approval, as part of enforcement against unregulated ivermectin imports.​

FDA Oversight Limitations
Even among FDA-registered exporters, on-site inspection coverage is incomplete. As of FY2024, the FDA inspected only about 33% of Indian pharmaceutical facilities listed as suppliers for the U.S. market. This limited regulatory presence means that not every facility producing IVM intended for the U.S. is regularly monitored despite formal listing.​
Investigations into companies like Glenmark and Sun Pharma have revealed FDA-documented violations and lapses in quality control even at registered exporters.​

Conclusion

* **Legally imported ivermectin** from India (e.g., from Zydus, Dr. Reddy’s) is entirely under FDA oversight.

* **Other Indian firms** export unapproved ivermectin products to the U.S. (often online), and these are **not** FDA-approved or inspected.

Thus, not all Indian ivermectin exporters operate under FDA oversight, and some export unapproved formulations that circumvent U.S. drug safety controls.


So there are a few outstanding questions, and I’m happy to be corrected. Everyone please do the due diligence, to be confident with your order, wherever you’re ordering from.

@AaronAF Now there would be a test, that would give so many such peace of mind. Brilliant.

To update my previous post: I received my order of ivermectin, mebendazole, and doxycycline today. It took 3 weeks from the time I transferred funds for the order. So, the service still is fairly good. Two caveats: 1) Try to find a supplier who accepts PayPal. 2) No matter what payment service you use, you must not indicate that it is commerce. In the case of PayPal for example, you just say the transaction is for family or friend. This apparently avoids regulatory complexities.

Greetings all,

I recently placed an order from Silverline. It was split into 2 shipments. The first arrived intact and contained a little less than half of what I ordered. The second shipment was seized and I got a letter from FDA. It is quite long but the bottom line is that the items do not comply with “provisions of the Door, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FD&CA), Public Health Service Act )PHSA), or other related acts.” These items have been detained.

Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what did you do?

Many thanks-

CB

I suspect it has to do with the individual inspector. 2 years ago when I got my last shipment from India, my package of 1700 tablets was opened by customs for inspection then closed back up and sent to me. I think it just depends on the luck of the draw when it gets inspected.

Thanks so much for the response!! I guess my inspector wasn’t happy with what he found and he went a lot farther than just opening it up. They flagged every single products in the order.

Do you think I am on a list and they will be watching for me on the next order??

Hi Greg,

I was a little unsure about the AI-generated statement:

“The FDA has issued warning letters against websites and overseas manufacturers selling unapproved ivermectin formulations, including ‘Iverheal-12’ tablets made by Healing Pharma of Mumbai, India, which are not approved for U.S. use.”

Upon checking, it appears that Iverheal-12’ tablets were flagged by the FDA not because of any confirmed quality issues, but because the manufacturers or distributors promoted them online with therapeutic claims — including antiparasitic uses and COVID-19–related treatment claims — which were not authorized in the U.S. The FDA has consistently issued warnings to any company marketing unapproved products with COVID-related claims. I suspect other Indian manufacturers may have been cited for similar reasons.

This situation highlights how AI systems can lean on older FDA enforcement documents from a time when promoting ivermectin for COVID-19 wasn’t allowed and could trigger penalties.

:+1: @Andrzej Cool clarification - thank you

That would probably be giving a lot more credit to the intelligence of the government than is reality. Much more likely that this is just a random act of hard ass.

:rofl: